Thursday, 27 September 2012

Tiens Tianshi Philippines Scam or not?

Tiens Tianshi Scam
Tiens Tianshi Scam

Tiens is a China based MLM company in the health an wellness industry. Their product ranges from health food, health care, beauty care and home care. It was founded in 1995 by Mr. Li Jinyuan in Tianjin China. Since then it was spreading like wild fire and now it is operating in a 100 plus countries worldwide including the Philippines. It has a very lucrative compensation plan (see: www.tiensna.com/docs/English-TiensCompensationBooklet). And as we know in Networking/MLM business model, the more lucrative it is, more of the primary income is coming from building your downline. This is where a MLM company is considered to be a "pyramid scheme" rather than a normal direct selling company.

Along with Tiens's exponential growth are increasing issues of fraud and complaints. They allegedly preyed on people that are poorly educated and in poverty. They know these kind of people are easily manipulated with empty promises and false hopes of becoming rich as what they did in Tibet. (see: http://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/pyramidscheme ). In addition, Tiens are also raking in issues of bad business practice. An article by Elizabeth MacDonald of Fox news USA entitled Crouching Fraud, Hidden Problems told us that Tiens are involved in reverse mergers.
here is a quote from her article:

"The evil twin to SPACs are the companies that got a lease on life through a reverse merger. Chinese companies like Bodisen Biotech of Xi'an and Tiens Biotech Group USA of Tianjin.
Don t be fooled by their high falutin bio-tech sounding names. Bodisen actually manufactured fertilizer and pesticides, and was subsequently delisted. Tiens sold nutritional supplements. A company calling itself China Natural Gas was a pink sheet, Amex wannabe, but it wasn t a BP (BP: 42.46, -0.55, -1.28%) or an ExxonMobil (XOM: 91.33, -0.41, -0.45%): China Natural Gas ran nine gas stations in Xi'an".


With these kind of reputation I am not surprised that they did not penetrate USA and Canada and closed down their branches there. Now they concentrate more on third world countries where poverty is high and easy preys are abundant.

More observations

I got interested on the man behind all this. Mr. Li Jinyuan. I do not know him and I tried not to make an immediate impression based on the track record of his company and do more research about him. I thought the best way to get info about him is visit Tiens website. (see: http://ph.tiens.com/tiens/ph/en/about)
 Fortunately there are lots written material on the website praising him, but as much as they praise him I was disgusted. Starting from the first article about him I did not trust him, personally for me he is a straight-out liar. Here are few of my favorite proofs of his lie taken from Tiens Philippines website. It was the last two paragraph from the first article I saw about Li Jinyuan.


Tiens development is very much attributable to the unwavering support from the Chinese Government, its open policies, associations, friends, staff and especially Tiens’ business partners. Tiens’ journey of development is never without the 1. fulfillment of its social responsibility. Throughout its expansion, TIENS always live up to its principles of "contributing to society by restoring health to mankind." 2. It upholds the values of honesty and trustworthiness; being a responsible corporate citizen, it abides by the law, pays taxes and stimulates the economy, not forgetting contributions to charity, which amounts to more than RMB1.5 billion worldwide as of today.

When you hoist the sails to cross the sea, you will ride the winds and cleave the waves. With an outlook toward the future, TIENS will continue to serve global consumers with outstanding products and service, opportunities for education and career advancement, state-of-the-art business concepts, and improved quality of life. TIENS forms a broad international platform for anyone interested in its charitable causes. 3. I believe that everyone can enjoy a happy, harmonious, healthy and wealthy life.

1. I do not know what they mean by "social responsibility". Everybody knows from what really happened, It was "social destruction".
2. Again an outright lie, what happened in Tibet was the complete opposite.
3. If he is not delusional then he is a complete liar. NOT EVERYONE will make it in MLM, and especially not even the majority. In this type of recruiting business models, facts shows that on average only 2% will make money.

This is just some of the few things I saw in a two short paragraph. In that Tiens website there are more or less 5 pages full of writings about him. Even if it was a sore to the eye I endured reading all of it. I was amazed how could such man dared to claim all these when whats really happening around is the complete opposite.

 

Discalimer

The piece of writing above is a product of my research, opinions, critical thinking and common sense. However, human as we are, we are not perfect. Furthermore, I am no expert on journalism of any kind, I am just an average bloke. So this will not be used as a professional reference.

If you wish to share, correct, suggest, agree or disagree with me feel free put your valuable comments below.. :)

Is Tiens Tianshi Philippines Scam or not?

9 comments:

  1. I m working in this company as a 3* Distributor. I just joined this company last month.. and the amount of my sale that has been made in my group was 1500PV.. my last Cheque was nearly about 16,000 Pakistani Ropeye.. it the income of my 1st month.. I m sure i can stable myself in this business of network marketing.. its a true business .. We just need to understand all the benefits they provide.

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  2. Khoti kay bachay. You are selling false items to innocent people. Tiens is a big Scam and your kind of mean people promoting it by false health stories about their products for your commission. Why don't they sell their items on medical stores if those are so effective.

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    1. Tiens is helping and teaching ordinary people/ employees to be a business minded, if they will sell their items on medical stores the owner of the stores will get richer.. tiens care for health and wealth of people,.

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    2. Lol... and what are the uses of these useless products?

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  3. Assalam u Aleikum
    I have a question
    tiens have HEALTH RELATED PRODUCTS?
    If "yes",,then are these products registered with DRAP(Drug Regulatory Authority of Pakistan)?
    http://www.dra.gov.pk/gop/index.php?q=aHR0cDovLzE5Mi4xNjguNzAuMTM2L2RyYXAv
    www.dra.gov.pk
    This act is passed by ZARDARI in 2012 and implemented by Nawaz Sharif as on June 2014.
    As we are living in PAKISTAN and obeyed the local laws
    Are the products of tiens REGISTERED with DRAP if yes prove it?

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  4. Yes its a total scam programme started by Charles ponzy in 1920. The failure and illegality of this scheme was absence of any product. Now this Tiens so called health and wealth has attache useless products and started to trap innocent people. It was banned in USA and the producers targeted third world countries, here it was easy to prey people and drama is still going on...

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  5. Please BEWARE of SCAM FRAUD by Economic Frauds Detection & Prevention Inc.

    Economic Frauds Scam - https://economicfrauds.net

    Around May 23, this year my office received a call from a representative (he refused to mention his name) from Economic Frauds Detection & Prevention Inc. telling us that someone had filed a damaging complaint against our company, although he would give no further details, and we have no knowledge of any such complaint. During the conversation, he suggested that we should make a payment of $650 and in return that they will not make the complaint public as it would damage our reputation. We told him that we would think about it, because it is a corporate matter, and we don't have the discretion to make payments for reasons like this without approval from our bosses. Up until this week, they have been calling us about it continuously. They even threatened to make our company famous with the information that they have by exaggerating the complaint and posting it publicly on their site and all over the internet. They even gave us their site name, which is https://economicfrauds.net, and asked us to check for ourselves what had happened to other companies that refused to settle with them in the past.

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  6. Please BEWARE of SCAM FRAUD by Economic Frauds Detection & Prevention Inc.

    Economic Frauds Scam - https://economicfrauds.net

    Around May 23, this year my office received a call from a representative (he refused to mention his name) from Economic Frauds Detection & Prevention Inc. telling us that someone had filed a damaging complaint against our company, although he would give no further details, and we have no knowledge of any such complaint. During the conversation, he suggested that we should make a payment of $650 and in return that they will not make the complaint public as it would damage our reputation. We told him that we would think about it, because it is a corporate matter, and we don't have the discretion to make payments for reasons like this without approval from our bosses. Up until this week, they have been calling us about it continuously. They even threatened to make our company famous with the information that they have by exaggerating the complaint and posting it publicly on their site and all over the internet. They even gave us their site name, which is https://economicfrauds.net, and asked us to check for ourselves what had happened to other companies that refused to settle with them in the past.

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