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| i-fern scam or not |
Have you heard of Fern C? The 9 year old MLM comapny selling vitamin C supplement in the Philippines? Well now, at the time of this writing they launched a new company called I-fern or Fern international. This new company now sells 4 products namely FERN D ( vitamin D supplement), MilkCa (calcium supplement), FERN-Activ ( a multivitamin) and Aurora (a facial cream).
The people behind the company
I went to the company's website to get the details, here it is below:Tom Manny Tan
President and CEO
Hannah D. Crisostomo
Vice president for Business Development and Marketing
Ma. Lourdez C. Corpuz
Vice president for corporate human resources and
Organizational Development
Eddie O. Senturias
Vice President for Network Operations
Romulo M. Garcia Jr.
Vice president for Information Technology
Jesusa Ortiz-Villavito
Vice President for finance
Companys address:
Northon & Harrison Compound
Sheridan Street Corner Pines Street
Mandaluyong City
Metro Manila
Philippines
Compensation Plan
There are 6 ways to earn in i-FERN1. The Retail Profit
Earn up to 40% of the retail price
2. Fast Start Commissions
Receive up to $45 for your direct referrals depending on the package they purchase
3. Team Sales Commission
Earn $25 for every cycle you make and as much as $14,000 if you reach a certain sales volume.
4. Matching Bonus
As you earn Team Sales Commissions they are matched and you earn more. It also increases as you move up in rank.
5. Group Sales Rebate
Earned monthly from the reorders made by your sales team up to 12 levels deep under the 3x12 matrix structure. Increases as you move up in rank.
6. Global Pool Bonus
Earn via the company's profit sharing.
3% o the company's global monthly global sales are are allotted for this.
This pay plan is without a doubt a lucrative one, but I still have my reservations. I think this doesn't solve the inherent problem with MLM/Networking which is the market saturation end game. The usual question of what happens to the bottom of the pyramid when almost everybody is already a member and there is no one to be recruited or sell to still remains.
If I were to change this compensation plan I would greatly reward those who are at the bottom because those that are on top are more likely rich by that time, on vacation and is not doing anything for the company anymore. Why not reward those who are working hard to promote the company?
Those who are on the streets giving flyers, those who are bugging family and friends to share the business opportunity of company and those who are online 24/7 writing blogs, adding as many friends on facebook and posting on every classified ads they can find on the internet. If only I am the CEO of this company at least I will give those bottom dwellers the Global Bonus Pool that is 50% of the company's net profit. Unfortunately, not everyone really cares about one another these days, its all about me me me.
My FAQ
We do not have a lot of history about i-FERN as it is just a newly launched company at this time of writing. But, we have FERN-C. The company FERN-C is 9 yrs old and is also run by the same people. It must have some kind of a track record already that we can check, and it is the best company to study to get information about i-FERN's history. The most popular issues with FERN-C are the deceptive sales presentations of their distributors, unscientific testimonial claims and the true facts about the alkaline diet (for the full discussion on this topic regarding fern-c read http://paetechie.blogspot.com/2008/02/fern-c-sodium-ascorbate-alkaline-diet.html).The questions now are this:
1. Can these issues of bad business practices be avoided in this new company?
2. What are the steps i-FERN are making to make sure this would not happen again?
3. Are they even making any precautions to avoid these problems?
Another thing that I can not help noticing are their products.The first one I have to mention is FERN-D, a Vitamin D supplement. For me it is the most ridiculous product. Vitamin D is normally acquired from sunshine that is totally FREE and abundant. In the Philippines we are NEVER out of it. Why would I pay a premium price when I could get my vitamin D for free and is easily available everywhere? Why would I deviate from the natural way of getting my vitamin D to a synthetic supplement? Okay, maybe some people have abnormalities that they can not synthesize vitamin D in their skin but how many are these people? Do you think this product can easily be sold honestly?
The next worse product for me is the MilkCa "calcium from milk". It is just made from milk. What is so special about it? Why not just drink fresh milk? It will save you lots of money and keeps you away from the chemicals used to process it in a capsule form. The advertisement says "the goodness of milk in a capsule". How can milk be any good in a capsule? Many of us enjoys drinking milk, mostly kids, and also adults loves to put it in their tea or coffee. Why would it be good to encapsulate something we drink with pleasure?
If that is the case then big companies like San Miguel Beer and Coca Cola should be thinking of making their beverage available in capsule form.
For FERN-Active and Aurora the concern here is how competitive are these products to those that are available on retail stores. For aurora, Is this a unique one of its kind skin cream product? how does it compare via performance and price to a popular beauty creams like Belo products? For the multivitamin FERN activ, the competition is a lot tougher. There are a lot of heavy contenders out there like, Revicon, Enervon and Centrum. How will FERN-Activ be compared to them in terms of price and potency?
After these findings I would like to ask, did i-FERN really make a feasibility study of their product? Did they focus more about their product and not on the networking recruiting part?
Disclaimer
Be it clear that the article above are my thoughts that is a result of my own research, critical thinking and common sense. This is not an accusation but is just my opinion and questions. I am not a professional in any field so this article may not be treated as such.If you wish to add a point, correct/suggest an edit, agree or disagree with me. Your valuable comments are welcome below.
Is i-FERN scam or not?
I am a renal doctor by profession.
ReplyDeleteI was approached by one of these distributors of fern C before and he started talking to me about whole body getting acidic and that his vitamin C is alkaline and will help neutralize the acid in my blood. He did not know I am a doctor and I do not want to shame anyone so I just walk away. For the peoples information. The only PH that will be affected by food or drink will be your urine. The blood and any organs in the body regulates its own PH levels. Any changes in acidity or alkalinity in them is very dangerous and lethal. When you eat your food it is always acidic in the stomach and alkaline in the intestines. This is normal and those so called alkaline vitamin C is pointless.
Hi doc, i understand exactly were you're coming from. But believe it or not vitamin c especially sodium ascorbate is very beneficial to the body. I have meet many doctors who believes that vit c is essential to our body. Even my dentist gives vit c/ sodium ascorbate to her patients after extraction or operaton because she found out that it help in healing process. I myself take vit c whenever i feel i catching a cold or flu. And vit c have wide array of clinical studies that proves it helps cure scurvy.
DeleteDont mislead the readers. You are talking about the benefits of vitamin C. That is very far from the issue above. Address the issue about that shameful Fern C distributors doing bad business practice. scaring people by telling myths just to make a sale. For me, telling wrong information in medicine is very serious, this can be dangerous to peoples health. That is why being a doctor takes 8-10 years. A mistake can cause someones life!
DeleteI was referring to the doctors comment about vit c and not above how the individual distributors handles their business. Lots of opportunists are out there and taking advantage of the companies who's intentions are to help others but of course gaining profit from it too. It doesnt mean that everybody in fern is doing bad practice. You may not believe in the benefits of vitamins especially vit c but for me it sure helped my family alot. Maybe you should do your own research about vit c. And for your info many doctors (pedia, dentist, cardio and gps) are already prescribibg vit c (sodium ascorbate) not just fern c as well as other sodium ascorbate. As for i fern as a business well just like any other networking you have to work it out to earn.
DeleteIt seems you have a very poor comprehension. Please omit benefits of vitamin C, Nobody is against that. We know Vitamins are important and it is not the issue. as per the doctors comment, I think it is clear he/she is referring to the dodgy distributors claim that "Alkaline Vitamin C" is cure for your whole body getting acid. Not Vitamin C itself. Please get your logic straight.
DeleteBelow are some of the misconceptions, myths, and hypes that i-fern distributors are sharing online:
Delete1. There's no FERN-D overdose - FALSE
Vitamin D toxicity is generally caused by excessive doses of vitamin D. It is also termed hypervitaminosis D. The main symptom of vitamin D toxicity is hypercalcemia - elevated levels of calcium in the blood. The safe upper limit of intake is set at 4000 IU/day. Intake in the range of 40,000–100,000 IU/day (10-25 times the recommended upper limit) has been linked with toxicity in humans.
2. FERN-D is the ONLY Vitamin D listed in the Philippine Pharmaceutical Directory (PPD) - FALSE
FERN-D is just one of the Vitamin D listed in the PPD 19e. However, FERN-D has the highest dosage which is 1000 I.U. (compared to Forti-D which is 800 I.U.).
3. MilkCa has 21 Vitamins and Minerals - FALSE
MilkCa has the balanced minerals needed for optimal bone health. It is a singular source of 7 minerals (Calcium, Phosphorus, Magnesium, Potassium, Zinc, Iron and Copper) optimally balanced to build bone strength and maintain bone health. But no, not 21 Vitamins and Minerals.
4. The color blue at the bottom of SilverFresh toothpaste means that it is made with natural ingredients with medicine - FALSE
The color bar at the botton of the toothpaste tubes has nothing to do with the formulation of the toothpaste inside. The best way to ascertain the composition of a given brand of toothpaste is by reading the ingredients information printed on the toothpaste box and/or tube. On the other hand, SilverFresh doesn't contain harmful ingredients such as Triclosan, Parabens and Fluoride.
5. SilverFresh toothpaste can be used as feminine wash - A MISCONCEPTION
Toothpaste is not intended for cleaning any part of the body aside from the mouth, teeth, and gums. There are products on the market that are intended for feminine hygiene, although douching is not recommended because it eliminates helpful bacteria and leaves a woman susceptible to infections by yeast and harmful bacteria.
I agree with the doctor. The other name of Vitamin C is Ascorbic ACID. It is acidic by nature. Hence the agent claiming that his Vitamin C is 'alkaline' already brings into question his credibility. Again, the issue here is the credibility of the agent/distributor and the company, not the benefits of Vitamin C. :)
DeleteNot there on the day of the conversation but give fair treatment to the distributor as well. As a doctor, you could have educate the seller of what you have learned about. What benefit did it bring to you or sa seller?. Wala, since you chose to be silent.
DeleteI am with IFern and we bought our Car because of the company and we are earning passive income and bought some properties, meaning, Legit po ang Company.
By the way, I'm a Nurse and Had MBA from Ateneo at the same time. Hindi nga lang Doctor. ✌️
May MBA sa Ateneo pa ha pero mali mali ang grammar nitong Louie na scammer na to.
DeleteMismo. May MBA daw sa Ateneo pero punctuation ay maling mali. May period pa after question mark. Haha.
DeleteBasta usapang pera gumaganda kahit sa simula plang alam mo nang may mali sa intensyon.
DeleteLegit product naman daw, good quality etc. pero idadaan sa Pyramid scheme. Hindi kayang makipagsabayan sa retail or mas gusto kumita sa commission sales? Napakarami nang nagganyan mas magaganda pang produkto- hindi pa kayo natuto.
What the HECK!!! Why such company ever exist with a low quality of products like that!!! Anyhow I'm not sure if that company would ever last for a year!!! Damn them for deceiving people!
ReplyDeleteI agree with ashlee
DeleteThe company will not last for a year?? Really?? Then prove to us that by Aug. 10, 2013, the company is already close.
DeleteFor your information Miss Ashlee Wilson before posting such conclusive comments, why don't you do a little research? I-fern HAS already turned 1 year and is continuing their service. FERN itself lasted for 10 years and is NOW THE LEADING VITAMIN C HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES which is the first time in the history of Philippines where the leading Vitamin C Brand came from a network marketing company and not from a Pharmaceutical Company. It is even now the Official Vitamin Sponsor of PBA.Fern C started out in the network marketing business but NOW it is officially distributed to every PHARMACEUTICAL STORES NATIONWIDE. These Pharmaceutical drugstores initiatively reached out to the company. IF YOU ARE THAT DOUBTFUL, PLS DO A LOITTLE RESEARCH. GOOGLE IS FREE, WHY NOT USE IT?
DeleteWhy not Search Where the product came from,..Anyhow DSM switzerland nad GLANBIA USA are the main producers and about the fern D ur saying we could get vit. D from d sun and thats very much true,.. but come to think of it we could only get good vit d from 6am till 8 am and sometimes 7 is too hot already,..would you stay under the sun that long plus we stay indoors all the time due to work,.. plus it is a fact that in our country alone Filipinos are Vit D deficient meaning we have a weak immune system which Vit D enhances,..
DeleteWell. Theyre not deceiving people actually. I-fern has a medical team. You can ask me who are these medical doctors that recommends Ifern's products.maybe some of the member of ifern exaggerated the terms on how these medicine works. You can always consult YOUR doctor.
DeleteOh well it's 2021. I just joined Dec 2019 and earned my half of million and a car. Tell me that ifern will not exist even 1 year. "Ibang" Pinoy nga naman minsan...
DeleteAnu po mangyayari sa pinaka ibaba ng pyramid when it collapses? Sila yung maiipit. Sila yung kawawa. Yung investment nila ang hindi maiibalik.. I hope na sana hindi mag collape ang i-fern kasi when it happens.. Maraming mag susuffer.. So keep up the good work..
DeleteBakit kaya maraming tao ang nagcocomment pa ng hindi nagsasaliksik ng todo? Kung may mga tanong ka sa isip mo, ask around. approach a distributor and then verify it sa internet. hindi yang puputak ka kaagad dyan. Baka magulat ka pa sa malalaman mo. Marami talagang papansin na blogger sa mundo. kung may balak kang ipromote wag kang mnira ng kumpanya.
ReplyDeleteGood day and thank you for the comment,
DeleteThat is exactly what I did, I research as much as I can and I make my opinions based on it. And as you said I am a Blogger, it is what I do, express my honest thoughts and opinions, If it has a bad effect on a company I do not care, It is what I see, I can not write what I do not see or make illogical opinions based on presented facts, Besides its only my opinions not in any way an accusation.
If they do not want people to say something negative then they should not do negative things.
Maybe po kasi you expressed your opinions in a negative way, international fern, meaning hindi lang po sa pilipinas, as for fern-d, sabi mo po di kailangan sa pilipinas kasi tropical country tayo. May point ka dun pero pano naman yung mga nasa ibang bansa na kulang sa vit. D?
DeleteAt saka po, sa tingin ko lang ha, kulang pa po ang research nyo, di naman kasi to aaprubahan ng FDA kung alam nilang may negative effect to sa tao.
Sobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
DeleteHey buddy..
ReplyDeleteIf i-fern is scam as the company is back-up by FERN,Inc and it is 9years in the Philippine as MLM Company. Consequently, all of its products are made from DSM of Switzerland, and FERN-C is the number 1 vitamin C in the Philippines this year 2012. Among the FOUR products - 3-products - FERN-C, FERN i-flex and FERNCoffee Attainined the Superbrands Status for 2012! Click here for info.
FernSlim was Awarded -Philippine Super Brands on 2008.
FERN,Inc is member of DSAP - (Direct Selling Association of the Philippines). See here.
Moreover, FERN-President and CEO Tommany Tan was awarded as ERNST and Young's 2012 Emerging Entreprenuer of the year... Info here.
Therefore, FERN-Business is a legitimate business..
To join in the Company they have a rich compensation plan.. And we our now an International Company -the INTERNATIONAL FERN or i-fern. (Pls Contact 09196578960 - Ardie). . . We have 1 million member as of 2011...
Ang problema yung mga claims at turo nyo na hinde makatotohanan. ikapapahamak ng mga tao.
DeleteHindi naman po kasi magpopost ng proofs yan kung hindi makatotohanan, at saka ipapahamak ng tao? Ang alin? Ang products? Bakit in the first place magiging fda approved yang mga products kung alam nilang ikakapahamak ng tao?
DeleteSo yung distributor ng i-fern na nagsasabi acidic daw ang dugo natin at kelengan natin ng alkaline vit C, totoo o hinde?
Deletetangina nyong lahat. makapagsalita akala nyo alam nyo lahat. Punta kayo sa office ng Fern at I-Fern at bakit hindi nyo imbestigahan? May diamond tour doon kung san nyo makakausap ang mismong CEO at President ng kumpanya?
DeleteMay diamond tour pang nalalaman... :-) peace
Deletewag ka na mag react d ka nman sasali dba? wag kang papansin.
Deletemarami ng napatunyan ang kompanya.wla kang bilang dto shut up.
i-fern is a legitimate multi billion company successful and recognized here at the phil.ggwing lokohan?imposible un tnga.logic pls?
how much have you made so far
DeleteBelow are some of the misconceptions, myths, and hypes that i-fern distributors are sharing online:
Delete1. There's no FERN-D overdose - FALSE
Vitamin D toxicity is generally caused by excessive doses of vitamin D. It is also termed hypervitaminosis D. The main symptom of vitamin D toxicity is hypercalcemia - elevated levels of calcium in the blood. The safe upper limit of intake is set at 4000 IU/day. Intake in the range of 40,000–100,000 IU/day (10-25 times the recommended upper limit) has been linked with toxicity in humans.
2. FERN-D is the ONLY Vitamin D listed in the Philippine Pharmaceutical Directory (PPD) - FALSE
FERN-D is just one of the Vitamin D listed in the PPD 19e. However, FERN-D has the highest dosage which is 1000 I.U. (compared to Forti-D which is 800 I.U.).
3. MilkCa has 21 Vitamins and Minerals - FALSE
MilkCa has the balanced minerals needed for optimal bone health. It is a singular source of 7 minerals (Calcium, Phosphorus, Magnesium, Potassium, Zinc, Iron and Copper) optimally balanced to build bone strength and maintain bone health. But no, not 21 Vitamins and Minerals.
4. The color blue at the bottom of SilverFresh toothpaste means that it is made with natural ingredients with medicine - FALSE
The color bar at the botton of the toothpaste tubes has nothing to do with the formulation of the toothpaste inside. The best way to ascertain the composition of a given brand of toothpaste is by reading the ingredients information printed on the toothpaste box and/or tube. On the other hand, SilverFresh doesn't contain harmful ingredients such as Triclosan, Parabens and Fluoride.
5. SilverFresh toothpaste can be used as feminine wash - A MISCONCEPTION
Toothpaste is not intended for cleaning any part of the body aside from the mouth, teeth, and gums. There are products on the market that are intended for feminine hygiene, although douching is not recommended because it eliminates helpful bacteria and leaves a woman susceptible to infections by yeast and harmful bacteria.
Sobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
Deleteyung fern-d kelangan ba dito sa pinas, meron ba ditong tao sa pinas na hindi naarawan.
ReplyDeletekya nga nakakatawa eh.. haha..
DeleteAs far as i know for us to benefit from the sun's rays (vit d) you have to expose yourself naked under the heat if the sun. Do we do that? Can we do that? We dont even want to feel the heat of the sun. Another thing is the uktraviolet rays, with this climate change we are no longer sure if its still safe to expose ourselves under the heat of the sun. Base on stat just last summer how many people died of heat stroke? Anyway, vit D is not compulsary or any other vitamins because its still up to you if you want to be healthy or not. If you think you dont need vit d
DeleteIts up to you. Actually we have to thank fern inc because they made vit d available in the market at a very reasonable price. Some people needs vit D supplement and now its made available.
That is poorly as far as you know. The synthesis of vitamin D is possible with any part of your skin even just extending your arm outside the window. Telling people that exposing yourself naked under the sun is the only way to get Vitamin D is just a sales pitch of a snake oil salesman, a scammer. Also, the risk of skin cancer caused by the sun among Filipinos are rare. It is only a real risk if you are Caucasian. Heat stroke is caused by heat, temperature. Here we are talking about light. Not only is the Philippines a tropical country rich of sunlight but it is also an archipelago, We are surrounded by water and we have FISH!! A good source of Vitamin D is fish oils. Have you heard of tuna? how about sardines? even those canned sardines have vitamin D. How about Beef liver? Egg yolks? Is that diet not common among us Filipinos? Dont say we dont need vitamin D, that is very misleading. What we dont need is Vitamin D supplement like FERN C is selling because we are getting more than enough every day FOR FREE!!!
DeleteMeron! ung mga nasa call center! tanga mo naman. Meron ngang takot na takot maarawan eh. hahaha. nakakatawa kayo. Kaya hindi kayo umuunlad kasi you do not see the opportunity! MGA BULAG AT MGA TANGA!
DeleteVit D is in our body and it need to activate from the sunlight. It is not exactlyn from the sunlight. For you to have enought Vit D to your Body. You have to be exposed to sunlight without anything as in no clothes. Now my question is. Are you not vit D deficient?
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DeleteSobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
Deleteyup, the sun is not the only source of vit d but my reply was in response to the comment "meron ba dito sa pinas na hindi naaarawan". there are other sources of vit D, just like you said in fish, egg, etc...the question is can everyone eat these food without adverse effects in their health? not everyone can eat egg, like me I have allergies in egg, chicken and seafoods. i also have lactose intolerance so i dont drink milk or eat cheese. my uric acid is also very high so i cant eat liver. we are filipinos and we have dark complexion we have to expose our body wearing shorts and tank top for at least 15 to 20 minutes and that is direct sunlight. and we don't even want our faces exposed in the sun how can we benefit from the sun then? not to mention the sweet smell of the polluted air around us. and the best time to expose our body is earlier than 7:00am. i dont think we can do it. as per DOH we should avoid sun's exposure 9:00am to 2:00pm since this is the hottest time . vit D supplements were made to give us another choice other than the available sources of vit D out in the market without the hassle. heat stroke is cause by heat and the heat comes from??? THE SUN... we wont be having this hot temperature if not from the sun. RIGHT? we dont have to make our life complicated. you dont have to attack the product just to prove that the company is a scam. there are other vit D supplements not just the vit D, IFern have.
ReplyDeleteP.S. FERN C is not a Vitamin D supplement. its Sodium ascorbate hence, VITAMIN C.
Who inserted heat stroke in the Vitamin D synthesis topic?
DeleteIf you write about the blinding flash of lightning, definitely the deafening loudness of thunder is out of topic.
I dont believe you will be allergic with all those sources at once. That is just an excuse to buy Vit D supplement and make a sale instead of trying our best getting it naturally. There is nothing more healthier than getting it the natural way.
well unfortunately I am allergic to those foods. what can i do? since i was a kid, whenever I eat eggs or seafoods my whole body itches and i have rushes. and now a days whenever i accidentally ingest any of those food, somebody have to bring me to the hospital because my blood pressure will suddenly drop and i faint. if you want you may inquire with your doctor specializing in internal medicine. anyway i'm not selling vit D nor taking vit D, i havent have any symptoms of vit D deficiency. i'm just stating the facts the we, sometime in our lifetime will be needing supplements not just vit D. don't you have parents? is your mother not taking supplements? do you know that when a woman reaches the age of menopause she'll be needing calcium at the same time vit D for better absorption of calcium. do your research first before commenting. and as for the heat stroke its not about vitamin D is about exposure to the sun. try to develop your reading comprehension. :))
DeleteAgain the point was allergic to "ALL" the food sources of Vitamin D. If you are allergic to egg, shrimp or crabs. how about tuna and sardines? If you are allergic to those you are the first person that I know of, Never before I encounter people that are allergic to tuna and sardines. How about beef liver? still allergic? Certain Mushrooms? still allergic? haha.. what an excuse..
DeleteYes, I agree, the one who mentioned heat stroke dont have comprehension. kindly trace back who mentioned it fist.. hahaha..
You mean to say thy heat strike has nothing to do with exposure to the heat of the sun? Is heat stroke caused ONLY by hot temperature besides the heat of the sun? Im not allegic with tuna but with sardines YES! Liver, high uric acid. Mushroom? I dont eat mushroom. Actually my childhood life was quite terrible, because im even allergic to heat, may it be the heat of the sun or fever. I have been to different doctors to no avail. I attended my prom with a big rush on my face and my highschool graduate with a swollen face. Very unlucky me indeed. Fortunately sometime in college they just went away except the allergy to foods. I experienced it so dont tell me that its impossible. Lucky you cause you dont have such disorder!
Deletei dont need an excuse because im not taking vit D nor am i selling one. my point is, there will come a time that we will be needing these supplements and we are fortunate that they are readily available. some people CANNOT eat natural sources of vit D because of complications, thus they may take vit D supplement if their doctors prescribes.
DeleteConnection of HEATSTROKE from the discussion on VIT D?=EXPOSURE to the SUN. someone mentioned, why buy these vit D supplements when we can get VIT D for free, by SUN EXPOSURE. but HOW can we expose ourselves in the heat of the sun if:...
Department of Health:
MANILA, March 5 ---- With summer now officially here in the country, the Department of Health (DOH) is WARNING the public against HEAT STROKE and other related diseases. In a phone interview, DOH–Emerging and Re-emerging Infectious Diseases Program Manager Dr. Lyndon Lee Suy said the public should be wary of the usual problems emerging from high temperature especially heat stroke.
HEAT STROKE occurs when the body overheats due to hot and humid weather and TOO MUCH DIRECT EXPOSURE TO THE SUN and can’t cool down through sweat. Its symptoms include warm, flushed skin; faintness; dizziness; weakness; and headache and may lead to very high fever of 41 C; rapid heartbeat; convulsion; delirium; and unconsciousness if left untreated.
http://www.home-harbor.com/index.php/public-home/11398-home-harbor-doh-warns-of-heat-stroke-other-related-illness
Im confused, you told me:
Delete"and as for the heat stroke its not about vitamin D is about exposure to the sun. try to develop your reading comprehension. :))"
Now your telling me it make sense? haha..
Get yourself organized! lol
We dont need TOO MUCH DIRECT EXPOSURE TO THE SUN to get our daily dose of Vitamin D. All we need is enough exposure and make sure we are hydrated when doing it. How? Drink enough water, is that hard to do? And as we discussed there are a lot of food sources available. unfortunately for you, you have too many excuses, I mean complications, (lol)
which we never know if its true.. hehe..
REGARDING SA ISSUE NA LAHAT NANG MGA TAO SA PINAS NAARAWAN PLEASE CONSIDER THOSE WHO ARE WORKING SA BPO INDUSTRY THEY SLEEP IN THE MORNING AND WORK AT NIGHT. KINAKAILANGAN NILA NANG VIt.D TINATAMAD NA ANG IBA GUMISING PARA MAGBILAD LNG SA ARAW SO I THING THIS VITAMINS IF EFFECTIVE MALAKING TULONG TO.
DeleteSobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
Deleteactually the question is, can the products support the company and distributors in their network marketing business? I believe in a network marketing business the product is very important and not just the marketing plan. you may have the best marketing plan but with the lousiest products i dont think you can even make a take off. the challange for Ifern is to prove us wrong. prove that with their existing products they can help other people succeed in their network marketing business.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion the products are nonsense.
DeleteIn my opinion, your opinion is nonsense.
DeleteWhy would a company like DSM Switzerland (A 100 year old swiss company who is also Apple's partner, Mercedes Benz, Bentley, McDonald's, etc) produce a product that doesn't make sense?
"In my opinion the products are nonsense."
DeleteTHESE DAYS, OPINIONS DON'T COUNT. IT'S IMPORTANT YOU PROVE YOUR POINT AS NUMBERS. YOU ARE AS GOOD AS AIR.
1) THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ENJOYING THE SUNLIGHT NATURALLY. DUE TO THE OZONE LAYER PROBLEM. SOLVE THE OZONE LAYER FIRST. BUT UNTIL THEN, YOU NEED VITAMIN D.
2) FIND ME ANY CAPSULE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT HAS COLOSTRUM MILK. COLUSTRUM MILK IS THE GOODNESS OF MILK. THE COMPONENT RESPONSIBLE FOR BRAIN DEVELOPMENT. THE ONE THAT COMES FROM BREASTFED MILK.
3) Got nothing to say on Activ?
4) Aurora?
Clearly, even when there is something POSITIVE--you shut your mouth.
THAT ONLY MEANS YOUR ONLY AGENDA IS NEGATIVE.
1. no such thing as enjoying the sun?? kindly prove it using numbers.. hahaha..
Delete>tell that to the people who love summer, to the people who loves the beach, and let me introduce to you the word SUN-BATHING, sorry I dont have numbers to prove it exist.. haha..
2. As advertised, the product is "MilkCa" mainly as a calcuim(Ca) supplement, that is why it was named as such. now your telling us it is a COLOSTRUM substitute? do you have any nymbers to prove that? haha..
Then the name should now be changed into "MilkCol"..haha..
>I agree COLOSTRUM is essential for infants growth and development that is why it is available "FREE" in mothers breast milk. Babies main diet is only milk, they need it.
adults are capable to eat wide variety of foods to supplement their bodies needs.
3&4. What about Activ and Aurora? Im looking for issues to question.. are there any for these two? :)
Sobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
DeleteYou are all funny!!!!
ReplyDeletei agree.... so fun reading all the discussion...haha
DeleteCorrect. Hahaha!
Deletehahahaha... yes funny. because of individual pride. lets just learn to respect ideas of others and express ours also in a good way. anyway just be good to others.
DeleteSobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
DeletePara matapos yung usapan nyo, try kayo ng organic whole food na may vitamin D like spirulina. safe pa sya.
ReplyDeletewant to express my humble opinion, yung mga products po,hindi naman talaga para sa lahat, may target market ang company, and dun sila naka focus, anyway, about foods, hindi na ganon kaganda ang quality ng mga nabibili natin that's why supplements play an important role. Even yung mgastrict sa diet, meron at meron parin magiging problem, kasi ang daming factors we can't control.
ReplyDeleteAbout FERN D naman, to prove if you get the daily requirement of vit d in your body, there is a blood test for that, medyo expensive lang, but that answers your question if u really get enough vit d daily. May study about it. majority ng Filipinos very low ang vit d level, of course, ang lifestyle, hindi naman ibig sabihin nasa tropical country ka na eh enough na makukuha mong vit d, how about the call center agents and mga empleyadong whole day nasa building,
MilkCa naman, of course kung gusto ng milk na iniinom eh di hayaan nyo, but I believe this product is great. It's not just calcium, it contains all the nutrients needed by d bone. And as compared to other calcium supplements sa drug store, this is not made from limestone which can cause stone formation or kidnney stones. It's made from cow's milk, of course wala na dito yung fats na nasa drinking milk.
Fern Activ is not complete but it's more potent. We know that issue.
Well, 1 year na ang i-fern, and I believe with d president na kaliwa't kanan ang awards given by 3rd parties.
Usually 10 years life Ng binary. Get ready to recruit again after 10 years. Fern c officials used the marketers. After building the market of users ilalagay nila sa Mercury drug yung fern c. I'm currently listening to their training she kept on talking about signing up 31 heads. Wala bang one account Lang magka 5 million na?
DeleteHello... You English carabao little munchkin, I like your opinion and all but, let's analyze your work,"may target market" TARGET MARKET ? Oh, you mean the foolish and the gullible
Deletenow then, let's talk about food vs supplements and how easily tricked people who are desperate to lose weight
I'm actually near obesity due to me not having control of the foods I can eat in school which mostly sells high sugar and carbs food, and I thought of not eating will fix it but stopped immediately when I watched a lot of support videos warning not to do that, my mind was easily controlled by what I watch, my spirit was chained by a marionnette hidden inside my brain, it's also my own fault due to me being lazy but I'm starting to plan my life out so yeah...
That finished let's go to foods vs supplements, if you were to search and ask around only a small amounts of supplements that actually work, and most of them are HOORRRIIIBBBLLLEEE rarely even giving you medium amounts of vitamins, while food, food is more healthy and when it comes to diets its much much MUCH more safe to research
maybe your in a keto diet which you eats little to no amount of carbs high amounts of fat and small amounts of protein then search around to get what vitamins you want and need examples being the little amount of bit c you can only get in said diet, but if you search you could actually get it from fish roe and eggs, calcium then some milk, etc
While you holy Grail filled with nutritionless nutrion supplements are just that, a thing people use to trick others, but I'm not saying all of them are bad what I'm saying is that it's cheaper and way more healthier to eat food rather than drink these rocks, also if your complaining that you keep getting bad QuAlItY food, where do you buy it and why would you pick bad QuAlItY foods rather than pick it, and even if there aren't and the high quality food is expensive well do you know what's more expensive than said foods, your golden little pills, yeah it may look good but inside rocks are more healthy
Ahh yeah... Fern D... Maybe you already have a low iron nose bleed due to me speaking in English but let's start shall we ?
First things first, are you stupid, why would you waste money to just see your damn vitamin d, you could search the effects of low vitamin d and you will find out that you HAVE low vitamin d
Prt 2
DeleteSecond things second, go to the damn beach, have fun and socialise, go to the park in your break, wear some sunscreen and you'll easily get vitamin d, too weak due to eating supplements like a damn addict sniffing cocaine due to depression ? Or maybe your a vampire that sucks on supplements, Then eat fish mostly salmon and herring, it will save you a lot more money
Oh and let's talk about your low vitamin d in the Philippines, not getting it isn't the problem, the problem is that there isn't enough awareness, which then these companies use to spread bogus lies to the gullible, taking their money and giving them a pill that's less flavorless and nutrionless than a rock that could cost about a meal for the whole day, but I will give you some points for saying to people that just being in a tropical country doesn't mean you'll get that much sun, so spread awareness and tell people to have some fun outside, I almost forgot the worker who works inside buildings all day but they could just go outside at break days or I dunno eat more healthier, oh by the way did you know that artificial light could give you a SMALL amount of vitamin d though not as much as the sun but it's better than nothing
Searching a site they sited(yes it's a pun, shoo)here are the vitamins that bones use "calcium, protein, magnesium, phosphorus, vitamin D, potassium,)(manganese, copper, boron, iron, zinc, vitamin A, vitamin K, vitamin C, and the B vitamins)
All of these play an important role to your body due to bones, muscles, etc linking together to recycle or use unused vitamins to not waste it and let those things become waste that poisons the entire body, oh how great evolution is
And oh my F-ing God your stupid and gullible, FAT DOESNT, MAKE, YOU, F-ING, FAT, it's sugars and carbs due to it turning into glucose a fine and amazing source of energy, if you placing the cholesterol card, I'll simply say, eat in moderation, don't be stupid there's nothing good at too much good, unless it's supplements due to it being so horrible if you eat a whole truckload you'll probably only get 1 meals worth and a bunch of what are these ? Oh right chemicals that they use to turn this vitamins into capsules or pills
Also "nasa drinking milk" what else do you do to milk, f-ing snort it
Fern active is not complete... Are you serious ? Or is your brain so malnourished from your capsule popping ?
If someone were to sell you incomplete drugs you will need to be paid and multiple paperworks will have to be written, due to it maybe being dangerous so don't call it not complete, call it a dangerous drug that may or may not kill people !?
How cute, awards given left and right ? Wonder why I can't see any news articles and I also wonder why I can't see any, I also wonder whose the third party that gave them awards, or are you talking about the president giving away awards even though the flexing little busybody created an mlm or what people call a PYRAMID SCHEME
Oh and the one on the bottom, why do I smell a rat in here oh right ? Your a filthy rat that tricks people
Now let me clarify, most supplements which has unscientific claims are just horse shite, only buy prescribed medicine, they have a lot of exyperiey and don't you dare go to YouTube, also make sure it's actually serious and don't waste your money, research before you buy, and never think your smart enough
That's all, CIAO~
--BY THE MAN WHO
HAS TO MANY
ESSAY
Sobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
DeleteHey guys! Once and for all... All networking companies (or even non-networking) will claim that their products are good and of quality. Of course, normal naman na kapag may produkto kang binebenta eh ippromote mo yun. As of FERN-D, I think it has a great market outside our country rather here kasi mas kelangan ng mga taong hindi nasisinagan ng araw ung Vit. D. na nasa softgel form for them not to have deficiencies such as Rickets and Osteomalacia. Speaking of those diseases, kaya lang naman WALANG nakasulat na NO APPROVED THERAPEUTIC CLAIM un kc nga nkakatreat xa ng Vit. D Deficiency. Yun lang un. Sa mga nagsabing nakakagaling sya ng cancer, gusto kong makilala kung sino yung napagaling. As I know, it lowers the RISK of having cancer like any other vitamins naman, kapag may enough supply ka ng vitamins, chances are you will be healthy and prevent yourself from getting sick. Kaya nga supplements tawag eh.
ReplyDeleteAbout naman sa big market ng FERN-D, don't you realize even before magkaron ng FERN-D eh may vitamin D supplements na rin na mabibili outside the country? I'm sure sa mga countries na hndi nasisinagan ng araw eh may mga binebenta na dung Vit. D. Di naman tayo pioneer nun noh. Kaya nga DSM ang supplier. Pinadaan lang sa isang Filipino -owned networking company para mas mabilis mabenta yung produkto although pwde naman ibenta direcho ng DSM yan sa Pharma companies kaso kung gagawin nla un, mas malaki gastos nila sa pag aadvertise. Kaya pinapadaan nila sa networking companies.
Another thing... Kindly Read this:
Alternative Medicine And Natural Treatments
The term 'alternative medicine' that is so commonly used today is somewhat unsuitable since that would seem to indicate that it is a form of treatment departing from so-called 'traditional' scientific practices and is just a possibility for a new treatment of disease.
The truth is, so called 'alternative' medicine is the natural treatment of disease that was in effect in ancient times long before conventional medicine was ever introduced. Alternative medicine is traditional, whereas conventional medicine is relatively new and not traditional. So conventional medicine should rightly be deemed 'alternative.'
Difference Between Alternative And Conventional
The main difference between so-called alternative medicine and conventional medicine is that the latter is too concerned with treating the symptoms of disease by scientific techniques and technology instead of treating the whole person and the cause of disease.
**For example, pag masakit ulo mo, iinom ka ng Pain reliver (Conventional Medicine) Minsan, di mo alam, kaya masakit ulo mo kc may mas malala ka nang karamdaman which mapprevent if you are living and eating healthy the natural way and also taking natural supplements.
On the other hand, alternative medicine puts much emphasis upon the prevention of disease (as mentioned above), and seeks to treat the whole person so as to strengthen the immune system to bring about a sustained healing.
IS I-FERN A PYRAMIDING SCHEME OR NOT???
ReplyDeleteMASASAGOT MO LANG YUNG TANONG NA YAN KUNG DISTRIBUTOR KA. LIKE ME, I AM A DITRIBUTOR OF I-FERN FOR 9 MONTHS NOW BUT NOT ACTIVE ANYMORE. I WILL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS HONESTLY FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE WHO ARE DECIDING TO JOIN.
HERE'S WHAT I GOT FROM DSAP: www.dsap.ph
How to differentiate a legitimate direct selling company from pyramiding using the 8-point Test
1. Is there a product?
- YES ABSOLUTELY!
2. Are commissions paid on sale of products and not on registration/entry fees?
- NO. THE MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME IN I-FERN IS THE FAST START COMMISSION AND TEAM SALES COMMISSION.
3. Is the intent to sell a product not a position?
-NO. THEY ALWAYS PUSH THE PREMIUM ACCOUNT WHICH IS WORTH (P23,625) KASI MAS MALAKI DAW KITAAN DUN. THEY ALSO HAVE THE INVESTOR TYPE PROPOSAL WHEREIN THE PROSPECT WILL BUY 21PREMIUMS WHICH IS WORTH ALMOST HALF-MILLION.
4. Is there no direct correlation between the number of recruits and compensation?
-NO, THERE IS. THE COMPENSATION DEEPLY RELIES ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS JOINING AND NOT MERELY ON A SINGLE BOTTLE SOLD.
5. If recruitment were to be stopped today, will the participants still make money?
- YES. IT COULD BE PERO PAHIRAPAN. SOBRA!!!
IN MY EXPERIENCE, I ONLY SOLD HALF OF MY PRODUCTS. HINDI PA KO BAWI SA ININVEST KO. SLOW MOVEMENT OF PRODUCTS TO BE SOLD TO END CONSUMERS. THEY ALWAYS PUSH SA INVITE INVITE NG MGA TAO. AND EVEN IF I SOLD THEM ALL, IT WILL ONLY COMPRISE 92% OF MY INVESTMENT BECAUSE WHEN U BUY THE P23,625 WORTH OF PACKAGE AND SOLD ALL THE PRODUCTS AT RETAIL, YOU WILL ONLY GET 92%. THE 8% IS FOR TRAINING, REPLICATED WEBSITE, MARKETING MATERIALS, ETC. NA SINASABI NILANG "FREE" WHEN IN FACT KASAMA YAN SA BINAYARAN MO. KAPAG YUNG P4,500 OR P7K NAMAN, 80% WILL BE THE WORTH OF PRODUCTS SOLD AT RETAIL.
IN OTHER WORDS, PAG NAGMEMBER KA AT GUSTO MO TALAGA KUMITA SA PRODUKTO LANG, UNANG UNA, WAG MO GAGAMITIN YUNG PRODUKTO KC MAGIGING EXPENSE MO YUN. IBENTA MO MUNA UNG PRODUCTS MO NA PAGKADAMI DAMI THEN AFTER THAT, PWEDE KA NA MAKABILI AT MEMBER'S PRICE (RE-ORDER) THEN BENTA MO AT RETAIL. MAY TUBO KA NA. EWAN KO LANG KUNG MAY NAKAGAWA NA NYAN SA I-FERN. IPAKILALA NYO AKO. ;)
6. Is there a reasonable product return policy?
-WHICH IS WHICH? MERON SA POLICIES AND PROCEDURES NG I-FERN NA PWDE IBALIK YUNG DEFECTIVE PRODUCTS. THAT'S NORMAL NAMAN. BUT I ALSO WATCHED YUNG VIDEO NG DSAP NA DAPAT DAW MAY RETURN POLICY PARA SA MGA PRODUCTS NA BEYOND SA PERSONAL CONSUMPTION NG MEMBER NA HINDI MO MABENTA. NONE WAS INDICATED IN I-FERN'S P&P.
7. Do products have fair market value?
-YES YES!!!
8. Is there a compelling reason to buy?
-FOR ME, EITHER A USER OR A PERSON WHO WILL DO THE BUSINESS, NO.
IF U WANT TO BE A "USER" OF THE PRODUCT ONLY, DI BA DAPAT PAG NAGMEMBER KA AT BUMILI NG PACKAGE EH DISCOUNTED N UN KC BULK UNG BINILI MO PERO HINDI GANUN EH.
FOR THOSE NA BUSINESS ANG PAKAY LIKE ME BEFORE, BELIEVE ME, KUNG SA SALES OF PRODUCTS LANG KAYO AASA, HINDI NYO MABABAWI PUHUNAN NYO. THAT'S THE REASON KAYA YUNG MGA MEMBER, INVITE NG INVITE, RECRUIT NG RECRUIT KC IN THAT WAY NILA MABABAWI PUHUNAN NILA NA HINDI NAMAN KC BIRO YUNG PRESYO.
If the answer to all the questions is YES, then the company being evaluated is a legitimate company. But if the answer is NO, then there is a high probability that it is a pyramid scam.
Effective po ba yong products nila?
DeleteSobrang effective. Kami lahat ng pamilya ko user na. 3days pa lang ng pag take alam mararamdaman mo na ng effective sya. Kaya nga nagpa member nalang Ako,malaki kasi ang masi-save eh then ginawa ko ng sideline. Kami kasi lahat gumagamit na... yung father-in-law ko na mataas ang sugar, bumaba na plus nawala yung parang sambol sa mata nya.. yung baby ko, gumaling din dahil dyan. Lalo na yung friend ko na may dengue, 10softgels lang ang ininom tumaas na ang platelet..diba amazing? Ako naman nung nagka allergy Ako sa mukha, kung ano2 na inilagay ko, buti nalang I have a friend na DISTRIBUTOR ng ifern, nega pa naman ako sa mga ganyan2 Pero dahil napahanga Ako sa product, ayun! Nadali ako...Haha... 450pesos ang bottle ng FERN D and it has 60soft gels pa hindi ka member...250pesos if distributor ka... 7990 nag pala ang registration...For me it's sulit... hindi nakakatakot inumin, it's organic-based.
DeleteThe answers from this post pretty much indicate that this MLM is a pyramid scheme. The following questions, in particular indicates it heavily:
Delete3. Is the intent to sell a product not a position?
-NO. THEY ALWAYS PUSH THE PREMIUM ACCOUNT WHICH IS WORTH (P23,625) KASI MAS MALAKI DAW KITAAN DUN. THEY ALSO HAVE THE INVESTOR TYPE PROPOSAL WHEREIN THE PROSPECT WILL BUY 21PREMIUMS WHICH IS WORTH ALMOST HALF-MILLION.
The answer is vague, save for that buying premiums is expensive and that you can earn more for selling premiums (ie recruiting people).
4. Is there no direct correlation between the number of recruits and compensation?
-NO, THERE IS. THE COMPENSATION DEEPLY RELIES ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS JOINING AND NOT MERELY ON A SINGLE BOTTLE SOLD.
There, clear as day. The compensation (ie the money iFern pays its distributors) relies on the number of persons joining. In layman's terms, it relies on recruiting.
So yeah, the products are there but ultimately to make money off this shit, you need to drag people into your network. It's a terrible practice and these distributors are practically preying on the gullible looking to make some money.
Sobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
Delete*** IF ONE PERSON COULD BE A MILLIONAIRE IN THIS BUSINESS, A THOUSAND UNDER WILL NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT - OR THEY CAN - AFTER A THOUSAND YEARS.
ReplyDeleteUNLESS YOU MAKE SALES OUT OF THE PRODUCTS.
- WHICH IS THE REAL PURPOSE OF A REAL NETWORKING COMPANY.
*** PAHABOL LANG...
ABOUT THE 10% WITHOLDING TAX NA BINABAWAS UPON ENCASHMENT... SAN KAYA NAPUPUNTA YUN? BINABAWASAN NILA KITA NG MGA MEMBERS NG TAX SO IT'S ONLY PROPER NA IREMIT NILA YUN SA BIR IN THE NAME OF THE MEMBER. PERO...
HINDI NAMAN HINHINGI NG COMPANY UPON SIGN UP YUNG TIN NUMBER NG MGA MAGMEMEMBER.
HMMM... I WONDER!!!
KAHIT GAANO PA KAGANDA ANG COMPANY...
KAHIT GAANO PA KARAMI ANG AWARDS...
THE REALITY IS MOST IMPORTANT.
NOW... IT'S YOU TO DECIDE. ^_^
So, kung ikaw po ang tatanungin. Based on your experiences as an i-FERN distributor. Worth it bang sumali sa i-FERN?
DeleteIf you are a full-time employee who have no other source of income but your monthly salary, it's not recommended that you do the business if your purpose is to become a millionaire. If you are only a user, it's not recommended that you buy a package because it's not the value of the money you pay for. Just look at the market of the products. The market will determine how much money you will be making. There are some good mlms here in the Phils that are offering better and unique products. You can evaluat and check out on that.
Deletelet me be clear on "If you are only a user, it's not recommended that you buy a package because it's not the value of the money you pay for." - you can buy from a distributor but not to buy the whole package to become a distributor.
Delete*** IF ONE PERSON COULD BE A MILLIONAIRE IN THIS BUSINESS, A THOUSAND UNDER WILL NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT - OR THEY CAN - AFTER A THOUSAND YEARS.
Deletesorry po, mali po itong statement na ito. hindi pa umabot ng 5 years si ifern pero marami napong millionaires na distributors or networkers dito. you can check on the internet, names of pictures are posted. you may contact and ask them what they did, to earn thier millions in ifern...
Sobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
Deletereasonable po ang price ni ifern at saka gumamit din ako ng ibang product na multivitamins at vit.d na binibili sa drugsstore at ibang supplements sa market .iba po yun effect sakin e mas masarap tulog ko mas mlakas ako im not a dealer ,user only at saka reseta din sakin ng doctor ko eh. so far magnda po ang result even sa family ko. at saka 17 yrs na po now ang IFERN sa market based on my research .lahat na ng multivitamins at vitamins ngamit n ng anak ko binibili ko sa mercury ganon pa din nman nagkkakasakit pa rin ng pabalik balik but non ng start mag take ng fernd sya mismo na amaze. sasabihin lng nya sakin kyang kaya yan ni fern d ma. just saying lng. hindi nid magtalo dito. kung may tanong tyo at hindi gusto sa sistema sa isang kumpanya derekta tyo sa knila magtanong at sa FDA kwestyunin natin sila if kiniquestion natin ang kalidad ng product ng IFERN hindi pra tayong pwet ng manok kuda ng kuda. hi di ko rin bibilhin ang vitamins na ito kung hindi sya FDA approve
DeleteNakakatawa ka naman. Hinahanapan mo ng negativity ang i-fern. I bet your life is very negative too that's why you are looking for a negative side of i-fern. Why don't you take a look at your life first. Ayusin mo muna buhay mo bago ka manira ng iba. Just an honest thought and opinion! :)
ReplyDeleteI respect your opinion. And you are now judging my life to be very negative just because I expressed my OPINION and COMMENTS with that company. Your going too far. I-fern is not my life.(Not like yours i think). I-fern is a business like any other mlms. And there is no perfect company. Each has its flaws. If you are a business person, you have to consider the pros and cons. We are talking about business here. Every business has a goal which is to be profitable and create value to its customers.
DeleteHi. Hows ur life? Milyonaryo knaba sa ifern?
DeleteSobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
Deletehi
ReplyDeleteshare lng..
nkinig aq khapon sa frontrow...
pero it not means join aq agad..tlagang ang mga members want nila makarecruit para lng cla mgkapera....wow weekly daw cla tumatanggap ng cheque....
bkit sabi couz ko ng attend na cya dati un at un padin ang cnasabi nla...anu ba tlaga...totoo ba kau???o niloloko nyo lng pati sarili nyo hndi lng ibng tao......
In making decisions whether to join or not on certain mlm company... First look on the company if its legal of course, then on the products and services they are offering, then the compensation plan. In this kind of industry, seminars and frequent meet ups with your team are very helpful. Study the business. Mlm is a great business!
DeleteI agree with you. MLM is a great business. and change lives for the better if you do it with the heart and seriously.
Deletekaya kayo wag mgpapaloko............
ReplyDeleteYou should be skeptical and always remember that what you pay for is the value of the products.
Deletedba sabi my tax pa cla...ehhhh san nila pinupunta ehh d naman cla covered ng BiR....HAHAHAHA KALOKOHAN......
ReplyDeleteMLMs are covered by BIR ruling. Their tax is called Creditable Witholding Tax which is 10%. You can check in BIR site but that tax they withheld should be remitted to the BIR. They should issue official receipts when making sales but they do not.
DeleteCovered ang I-fern Inc. ng BIR. Kung hindi sila covered ng BIR then hindi sila puwedeng mag operate sa Pilipinias at baka dati eh pinahuli na sila sa mga authority kung hindi sila covered ng BIR. Hindi ako I-fern Inc. member pero gusto ko ang direct selling, i like it. LEGAL po ang I-fern Inc. sa Pilipinas. Maging matalino po tayo at maging observant. Maging responsibile po tayo sa mga issue na binabato natin sa ibang tao or company. As a blogger dapat kung may topic tayo na gusto ilahad make sure na hindi ito sana bias. Be RESPONSIBLE enough. Kung gusto natin malaman ang true story sa nireresearch nating direct selling company eh we should experience paano pumasok sa circle of life ng ibina blog natin para hindi po tayo timawa. Walang natuto sa tingen lang. We learn by doing for us to understand. Kase somebody might fuck us up if we tell lies of any sort.
DeleteYes, no bias and regarding the tax in BIR. It is in our initiative and common sense to know the basic that all of the business in the Philippines the are distributed nationwide has a responsibility of paying taxes. If not the company itself will not last long and will face cases in the trial court because of that. I'm disappointed that there are people who don't know the Philippine Act. Better read for ignorance will lead you to being deceive.
DeleteHow come nobody knows about these products except us Filipinos? Kala ko internationally known siya, I can't find any decent reviews, their website is a 1 page poster with no information at all. Even this thread is a joke!
ReplyDeleteI believe your mistaken. As what I have known I-Fern is an emerging company. From the word emerging which means evolving, to rise and become manifest. As what I have read in other comments this company is new like 2 years since it was built and as I researched they are still working into it. You misunderstood and that comment is something to be posted of someone who knew little and unacquainted that will lead to ignorance. That's why I've been saying that study first before busting critics.
DeleteThey held events with free food to attract people. Its a bait so better think twice. They will convinced you that you can be rich by selling products. But totally not. Here's the thing Unless you invest the premium account which is cost you more than 20thousand pesos. Crucial part these premium accounts who are only have the oppurtunity to earn more. There only job is to recruit more. Lets say they get twenty people at once. That twenty people they recruited are the there downlines. All these downlines are their workers to sell the products. These poor people only earn coins while the top of the pyramid is sitting pretty waiting for commision they getting from there downlines. This is a scam they will trick you just to convinced you. These people dont have conscience. I wrote this just giving you heads up. But its still up to you. Think smart.
ReplyDeletehahaha!!Well if that's the case then the downlines should better work also in order for them to sit pretty like the top. Maybe, people will experiece hardships before getting to the top right? Bill Gates and other renowned business man is sitting pretty though not totally and they let other work for them.Hiring intelligent and capable people and just pay them. So, what's the difference in your statement? May I know?
DeleteLangya mga pinoy talaga, bec of MLM suddenly lahat naging expert sa Medisina!! Hahaha! I mean bakit hindi nalang ako sa Mercury drug pumunta at least nag aral mga Pharmacist dun ng 4 years regarding sa effect ng drugs and vitamins sa katawan. SO mas okay ba bumili kay aling Linda na Fern-C and makinig sa lecture nya about Alkaline gayung part time labandera sya? Nothing against her job but im just saying? Mas maganda ata sa experts nalang tayo pumunta ano po? Kaysa kung kayni kanino MLM drugs is like one of the worst out there when it comes to this type of business at least yung iba nanakawan ka lang ito lalasunin ka pa! Hahahah!
ReplyDeleteWell, as for me I have read some of the comments above but what I will sat now is it will depend if BFAD will approve the product as well as Halal(for muslim friends). Also, we have to research if the DSM and Glanbia were really the suppliers of the product. I believe that those were also the suppliers of Coca-Cola, Phizer, and many more. If it is proven that the supplies of I-Fern comes from there then I will not doubt. Besides, our BFAD will never let out a product in a market if it will cause harm to the people. Lastly, I know a little about the backgrounds of networkin if it is Scum or not. I believe that not all of network marketing are scam mentioning USANA (an international corporation) and the UNO. I believe they already have sponsored lots of programs and etc. I just want to say that better be silent if you know little than to say crude things because it will just make you shameful and a laughable stuff. I guess we don't have to worry because if the Fern Corp. lacked something in their product then it was already banned for the past years. Everything depends in the testimonies of people like if they like fern products because its effective or they don't like it. We can survey it and compare the numbers of people who say positive and negative afterall it is the same as the saying" Don't judge your beauty but let others say it to you and that will be the truth" Practically, if a person will tell the truth then she/he is truthful but if thay tell a lie they're just insecure and do everything to make others fall. This issue can't be avoided especially in business world but let's just see in the coming years.TESTIMONIES.
ReplyDeleteYes fern C is sold in Riyadh Saudi Arabia. I am using it. You can buy it in Filipino supermarkets. Lagi sinisipon kasi lage may sand storm kaya take aq ng fern c. Maganda ang epekto sakin. Hindi na aq nagiging sakitin. E tatry ko ang fern d kasi nga bihira lang makakita ng araw sa saudi.
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ReplyDeleteCRAB MENTALITY.
A mental sickness of the Filipinos.
It's a sad fact.
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ReplyDeleteI have a friend once member of this scamming business. yes you can earn money but it wasnt that stable. The incom wasnt great enough to sustain your needs. Do you think on your dailylife you can sell products nor recruit people? Not all people doesnt have a silver tongue by the way. So its up to you if you want to risk your life or you dont have concience at all just for the sake of money. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteMANGLOLOKO YANG I-FERN!!!!!! LAHAT NG MGA PRODUCTS NILA YANG FERN-ACTIV, MILKCA, FERN-D AND AURORA NA CNCLAIM NILA NA FDA APPROVED AY HINDI PALA FDA APPROVED KAYA NGA HINDI NILA MAUPLOAD UPLOAD ANG MGA PAPERS AND LEGALITIES SA WEBSITE NILA. ANG ANAK KO NANGAYAYAT SA PAGTAKE NG FERN-D PAGKADALA KO SA DOCTOR NALAMAN LAMAN KO NA LANG NA HINDI PALA YUN BASTA BASTA IPAPAINOM KAYA WAG KAYO BASTA BASTA BIBILI KAGAYA NIYO NABOLA BOLA LANG AKO NG MGA TAGA I-FERN NA YAN BASTA LANG MAKABENTA KUNG ANO ANO IPAPANAKOT SAYO NA MGA SAKIT NA NAKAKAPANIWALA KAYA NAPABILI TULOY AKO. MGA MANGLOLOKO!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://i-fern.com/wp-content/uploads/FERN-ACTIV-CPR.pdf oh ayan para maniwala ka na FDA approve.
DeleteScam ang i-fern ang dami na niyang napaniwala sa retirement pero anong nangyari sa fern-c namin nuon biglang inilabas sa market nawalan kami ng kita bigla pinutol ng i-fern ang pagnetwork. i-fern scam
ReplyDeletekunwari ka pa. kumita ka din naman! edi sana sumama ka sa mga taga fern c na nag ifern!
Deletemga bobo! tignan nyo nalan yun website! nandun lahat ng legalities. haha nakakatawa kayo. kaya hindi kayo naasenso puro kayo siraan. pare parehas kayo nasa networking industry sinisiraan nyo bawat kumpanya.
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Around May 23, this year my office received a call from a representative (he refused to mention his name) from Economic Frauds Detection & Prevention Inc. telling us that someone had filed a damaging complaint against our company, although he would give no further details, and we have no knowledge of any such complaint. During the conversation, he suggested that we should make a payment of $650 and in return that they will not make the complaint public as it would damage our reputation. We told him that we would think about it, because it is a corporate matter, and we don't have the discretion to make payments for reasons like this without approval from our bosses. Up until this week, they have been calling us about it continuously. They even threatened to make our company famous with the information that they have by exaggerating the complaint and posting it publicly on their site and all over the internet. They even gave us their site name, which is https://economicfrauds.net, and asked us to check for ourselves what had happened to other companies that refused to settle with them in the past.
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Around May 23, this year my office received a call from a representative (he refused to mention his name) from Economic Frauds Detection & Prevention Inc. telling us that someone had filed a damaging complaint against our company, although he would give no further details, and we have no knowledge of any such complaint. During the conversation, he suggested that we should make a payment of $650 and in return that they will not make the complaint public as it would damage our reputation. We told him that we would think about it, because it is a corporate matter, and we don't have the discretion to make payments for reasons like this without approval from our bosses. Up until this week, they have been calling us about it continuously. They even threatened to make our company famous with the information that they have by exaggerating the complaint and posting it publicly on their site and all over the internet. They even gave us their site name, which is https://economicfrauds.net, and asked us to check for ourselves what had happened to other companies that refused to settle with them in the past.
Until now FERN INC. is stable
ReplyDeleteUntil now FERN INC. is stable
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ReplyDeleteSupplements (vitamins) are just expensive urine according to doctors in Us and Canada. If you're eating proper and healthy food you don't need to take supplements everyday. Nothing beats real solid food bcos when something is processed into a different form, the nutrients of that food item break down and lose its benefit. Like overcooking veggies or microwaving. It's the same as processing food. That's why raw veggies and fruits are more recommended than cooking/overcooking them. So if you're eating enough citrus fruits everyday and vit c as a supplement, you're just buying yourself an expensive urine. The rest of the nutrients that our bodies can't absorb goes to waste (urine or poop). Our bodies absorb raw, natural food better than processed or synthetic products. In case of the flu, cold or if your body is having a hard time absorbing a certain vit or if you live in a place where you can't get enough of that certain vit like in some parts of Canada, we don't get enough sunshine in the winter and we often don't come out bcos of the temperature or weather, either you go out to catch some sun or take vit d supplements. Or if you catch the bug (get sick with cold or flu) that's the time you load up and help your immune recover. Otherwise when you're young and healthy, let your immune system fight it off. Our bodies are incredible at healing itself. So eat proper and healthy food. Take care of it property, exercise, and you won't be needing supplements or vits for a long time. If in case you need supplements as maintenance (meaning it was recommended to be taken everyday or hourly by your physician), any doctor would recommend you buy the generic one. They'd tell you that they're no different from the branded (popular) one. Then you still get to save money. Doctors won't recommend branded meds or supplements unless they're getting a commissions from it. So eat healthy, exercise, use supplements sparingly, and buy genetic. And you are all set. You don't need to buy branded supplements from a popular company or brand, drugstores has a lot of unpopular and genetic brands that are cheaper but with the same quality as popular brands. Also, if you do really need to supplement, multi-vits are the way to go. It contains enough and has all the vits/minerals you need instead of buying every vits separately.
ReplyDeleteIfern companyu is like some of other big MLM company. the only difference is the product that they are selling, why only Ifern, why don't you study aim global, usana, and other MLM company, are you a member on one of these that's why you are destroying credibility of IFERN because it's now a fast growing MLM company in the phils. for your info the projected sale of FERN D vitamins for this whole year is now sold out. that's the only issues i saw on this company because lots of people using this product have their testimonial this fern d vitamins is effective and produces good healt to them. maybe you should try it as well first before posting such nonsense comments about IFERN company.
ReplyDeletePeople has always to say may it bad or good. we all has the right but to tarnished someone reputations without enough proof is totally not accepted. If its not your cup of tea then leave it. no need to bad mouth. God bless us all!!
ReplyDeleteAs of this writing the company is still soaring high! i'm not a member yet! 😂
ReplyDeleteAnd btw Fern products helped my ate's friend healed from Psoriasis
ReplyDeletePosted 2012 and after 7 years, buhay pa ang ifern. �� I recently became a distributor because i really love the product. And may I say pioneering stage pa lang sila sa ifern ngayon. Siguro masasabi lang na scam to if they have millions of distributors pero di sila umangat, not even once in their months of working.
ReplyDeleteHey guys, i joined ifern because of personal health issues, namely arthritis which i acquired starting at the age of 32. Those who has the same problem can relate to me, sythetic medicine are always at the first thought to ease the pain..and who could argue that every single cap will always have some side effects, even to kidneys.
ReplyDeleteBut when i met fern D, can i insist to disclaim the cure i received from taking fernD?
I am already a distributor now, and every single individual i happened to share this fern benefits has nver returned with negative feedbacks.
Im only more than a year as distributor but my first year was spent for experiencing the benefits of the products which i can use as testimonies when i start working it out as my personal business.
I was not and will nver b disappointed. I and my family are users now, and believe to prosper in sharing the what ifern has done to me and to my family..
Come and know ifern in personal way by using it yourself.
Aminin nyo false info kayo para lang kumita kayo.Dito sa amin wala n maloko kaya kung saang parte ng mindoro nakakarating. Kawawa naman yung mga nasa baba nyo. Nasa taas lang yayaman dyan..Akala mo naman kanila yung kotse kung maidisplay para lang makaakit ng client nila.
DeleteBkit no therapeutics claim ang tatak ng vitamin kung nkagagaling nman pla? Dapat THERAPITICS CLAIMED nkasulat ,at walang NO
DeleteHoy!! Tumigil ka na! Ang mga napapaniwala nyo lang e yung mga nasa liblib na lugar. Kahit matanda na uugod ugod na ooferan nyo ng ilang accounts kuno na tinatawag nyo. Paano naman mabebenta un e halos di na makalakad. Tsaka puto post nyo hindi naman sa gamot nyo. Kung paano yayaman! Which means sa panloloko.
ReplyDeleteBuhayin natin ang thread na to!!
ReplyDeleteHi
ReplyDeleteHi
ReplyDeletesino na po yumaman dito dahil sa i-fern ?
ReplyDeleteI bet yumaman na si blogger dahil ki i-FERN..
Delete1,132,208 page reviews! :) wow.
Im not for any arguments guys. I share what i believe is necessary. You have your right to doubt but its not now to say a final word bout our own venture, esp while joining ifern business. If we succeed or loss in putting our money, that is obviously none of your concern. For it is first hand to me to recieve the benefits it claims, my health is restored and so with my mom.. Maybe you'll get successful by bubbling nonsense.. So good luck!
ReplyDeleteI bet yumaman na si blogger dahil ki i-FERN..
ReplyDelete1,132,208 page reviews! :) wow.
Ung account b nang bawat dutributor ninyo ay safe at makukuha b nila ang kanilang earnings every month?
ReplyDeletedepends on the distributor kung gusto na nyang ipa-in cash o hndi pa..ung iba kasi pinapalaki pa nila..like me, pinapaabot ko muna ng 20k above bago ko pinapa in cash..ung iba nman na tlgang in need na, pinapa cash na nila agad kahit 10k or so palang. by the way its a form of a cheque nga po pla..hndi sya cash na binibigay.
Deletekahit po weeks plang basta gusto mo ng makuha earnings mo, makukuha mo po. ok po?
Pag nakagawa b nang mali ang isang distributor, apketado ba ang buong grupo? Pwd b cla tanggalin or i force leave pati ang associate managern
ReplyDeleteKc may kilala ako na associate manager n. Hirap niyang ngtrabaho para lang marating ang posiotn niya ngaun, kahit saan siya pumunta para lang makapagrcruit at makapagbenta ng ifern products. Ngaun, ung nasa baba niya mas mayaman at mas edukado sila ayaw nilang nahigitan sila n mahirap n associate manager kaya hinanapn ng butas sa mga distributor ng mahirap n associate manager para i force leave si mahirap n associate manaver pra c mayamang associate ay makuha ang pwesto n mairap na associate manager. Sa tingin ko dnaman makatarungan un. Ang fern corporation dpat fair namn cla, ke mahirap p mayaman ang mga members, i treasure naman sna ng company ang hirap at sakripisyo n mahirap na associate manager.
ReplyDeleteTry usana para walang away hahahahahah!
ReplyDeleteAlaahoy pare pareho lang kayo. Wala naman bisa gamot nyo. Alam ko yan ganyan scheme. Tanga na lang kayong papatol dyan sa mga gamot na yan.
DeleteWag kayo hibang nayaman sa networking talaga ay yung nasa top hahhha! Tska sythetic medicine yan anong all natural wag patawa
ReplyDeletehndi nman po yumaman, hndi rin nasa top, pero kumikita weekly monthly, 5months member plang po ah...kesa naman po nakaupo lang no?.. ung medicine nman po, wag nyo nman po sanang ipagkait kung tlgang may kabutihang naidudulot sa katawan po namin lalo na ang fern-d. sorry po ah, wag niyo po akong ibash, nakakatakot ka po eh.
DeleteNyeta naiiririta na nga ako dito sa Puerto Galera mga nagpopost ng mga sasakyan nila sa ifern akala mo naman kanila na kung makapost. Idinedisplay pa ung pera. Tangina alam ba nila ang binebenta nila? E tsangala driver, tricycle driver, pahenante ng truck ang nagrerecruit.Paano naman ako maniniwala sa produkto nyo.
ReplyDeletewell, it only means that their company isn't only for the rich ones. meaning, they are open into giving opportunities to everyone...rich or poor, educated or not, young and old... is that so bad?
DeleteMga kawalangyaan pa ng ifern na yan pati ung mga katutubo na mangyan dito sa Puerto Galera Or. Mindoro kinakasangkapan nila.Ni re-register din.Mahiya naman naman kayo! KAPAL ng mukha nyo.
ReplyDeletewow ���� do you mean they don't have the right to uplift their economic status in life?just because they are katutubo?? wow! discrimination at its finest!
DeleteKung gusto nyo ng Vitc D, D, B complex, toothpaste at gatas, meron nyan lahat sa Mercury Drug. You dont have to join an MLM or spend your hard earned money for ridiculously priced items. LOL
ReplyDeletehi
ReplyDeletehabang binabasa ko ung thread nato, mas lalo kong narerealize how legit ifern is..from 2012 maraming doubtful sa ifern, but look, 2020 na ngaun but the company is soaring high..at dito sa lugar namin pioneering palang sya. ung mama ko, distributor na last sept.2019 lang, but before that user na whole family namin ng fern-c and eventually fern-d...kesa bumili c mama ng mahal, nagpamember nlang xa para at least mapamura nman kami..very thankful kc kami sa product nila eh, hindi ko na iisa isahan kung bakit (baka mabash pa ako at sabihin nag gagaling galingan, hndi nman kc ako doctor) anyways, nagpamember ang mama ko hndi pra maging milyonarya through invites, but because of the product itself...pero good thing is, nkakareceive sya ng cheques, mga 4 times na cguro from sept.2019..best part pa ay hndi alam ni mama na kumikita na pla sya, tinetxt nlang sya ni uncle (upline nya) kung magpapa in-cash na dw ba sya, ung uncle ko pla nag iinvite then nilalagay nya under kay mama (bali downline ni mama) para daw maging balance ung network niya (uncle) ..matanda na kc c mama kaya hndi sya pwde sa mga ganyang lakad lakad pra mka invite..talagang ung product lang ung ina after nya, namin. so ako ngaun, baka magpapamember din ako gusto ko kasing kumita from a LEGIT company with QUALITY products.. mahirap kasi pag call center agent nlang palagi.
ReplyDeletengayong may corona virus,wag na wag kaung bumili ng fern-d at fern-c ha...baka ma budol budol pa kau ng ifern.
ReplyDeleteyan sana ang sasabihin ko kc ngagalit ako sa lahat ng mga nega dito kay ifern..pero dahil mabait ako, tulad ng company ko..cge go, bili lang!
E tanga ka pala e, bakit naman ako Maniniwala sa driver at dating isang tambay sa kanto. E di kung may sakit ako sa doctor ako pupunta. Regarding nga pala sa mga katutubo may pa uplift uplift ka pa nalalaman, hindi sa minamaliit ko sila. Cge nga may sakit ka alukin ka ng isang katutubo eto gamot sa sakit mo. Bibilhin mo ba bobo ka ha?
ReplyDeleteno comment na po. talo mo na po ako. God bless you po.
DeleteWow ha! Gamot yan sa corona virus? Pweh! Nagkita lang sa Internet ng Vitamin D na naconnect sa corona virus naipost agad kasama yung product nila. Haha. Katawa. E di natural hindi lang nasabi sa NABASA nyo sa araw yung vitamin D.
ReplyDeletenkakatawa, wala pa pong gamot for corona virus. ung vitamins po na yan for prevention po yan, alam niyo po ba ang prevention???
DeleteFollowing this thread.
ReplyDeleteOks na oks lahat ng ifern products.
ReplyDeleteNapakaganda rin ng negosyo.
Dahil sa virus dumagsa ang orders. Kung nakaorder ka naman, di mo malalan kung kelan idedeliber sayo.
Kung scam si ifern. Ang sagot, hindi.
Maganda ang new normal business ng ifern dahil sa probinsya ng Isabela ako at gustong gusto ko umattend ng RBA sa pasig. Di ko alintana ang pagod sa byahe at layo ng office.
Natuwa nga ako na may online RBA na at napapanood na rin ng mga kapitbahay ko. Nagsipag orderan sila sa akin. Nag order ako sa computer nung March pero hanggang mgayon wla pa. Ok lang kase naiintindihan ko naman na sa sitwasyon matin ngayon, may delay talaga.
Pero july na po ngayon mga mam sir. Wla oa rin orders ko. Ilang downlines ko ang may mga orders ang naghihintay. Mga orders ng bago kong prospects naghihintay. Nagtanong ako sa mga upline pano malalaman ang estado ng order wala silang maisagot.
Pero cobsistent sila kakapush na mag recruit. Pre-order ng mga packages.
Hello! Ung simpleng orders nga di nyo mapadala at walang kasiguraduhan kelan madedeliver. Pati package ng downlines ko di nyo rin alam kelan matatanggap.
Good business pa rin ba un?
Fair ba ung sa newbies na kakasali lang na mangangapa sa dilim.
Mabilis lang gawin ang ifern.
Ootder lang nin kmi ng oorder at ipo promote ang produkto at negosyo. Wlang duda maganda. Pero sana naman wlang mabibitin sa pagoorder. Pera ung inilabas walang produktong natanggap?
Camella ba ito na ode pre-sell?
Sa pamilya ko, anim kami na umorder ng June, hanggang ngayon August na wala pang update kung kelan madedeliver. Grabe! Nakakadismaya talaga! Sayang lang ang ibinayad namin sa mga packages.
DeleteSobra po ako disappoint po tlaga.at bago ako pumasok at pinakikilala c ifern sakin ok po sya andun po ung helping lalo po may sakit anak ko.pero kalauna hnd ko n ramdam ung helping lalo lng po ngpapayaman yung mga upline po nmin.oorder s dushboard diyos ko Lord ang tagal din at isa lng ma purchase.masama po tlaga loob ko.pero yung ina sobra sobra po cla makakuha porket d po kmi ganun k laki mag order.ar nakakahiya po tlga mag recuit sobra bagal at wla product maibigay.lalo s panahon ngaun kailangan po sana ung product.
ReplyDeleteSame experience here. I joined iFern, first and foremost, to be able to easily get the vitamins locally for my family's personal consumption and to avail of distributor's price. I initially paid a substantial amount for the package and almost 2 months ago, I reordered the products. Until now there is no update as to when it will be delivered. Most of the vitamins are unavailable except for fernD that you can order for limited number of bottles (1 bottle only for 120's and maximum of 5 for 60's) My point is, imagine the amount of money they got for paid orders that they cannot deliver for several months. They are using this pandemic as an excuse (delays in the factory, delivery, etc) but until now they are continuously accepting orders. WHY? And by the way, 2 of my siblings, 1 aunt and 1 in-law have the same problem on their orders. In just our group chat, several members are complaining about their undelivered orders too. IFern refers to us as "members" which means we are business partners. But if this is the kind of business you are going to give us, then you are making it so hard for us to TRUST this company. Are you guys making use of the money that your members have paid for the bulk of "undelivered" orders? To say it bluntly, our money that is in your coffer for months would have been earning interest in the bank. On the other hand, you can also freely use our money for months for your own purposes with ZERO interest charge on your part. Convenient, right? If you want your business to grow, DO IT RIGHT and be fair to the people who are at the bottom of the company's hierarchy! Remember this, your products are NOT unique. There are actually far more better ones in the market. I, for one, am very disappointed. I am now at the point of going back to my former brand of vitamins, even if I have to order them from outside thw country, than rely on your products that are NOT readily available to your own members, especially the newbies. It is my desire to support local products/companies but our health will not wait for iFern's product that has no regard for the neèds of their direct consumers. I rest my case.
ReplyDeleteI think that it is already proven by now that this vlog is non-sense. Why?
ReplyDelete1st he has no basis on this by the time this post was made.
2nd it is already proven that the i-fern earning system and products are effective.
Balak ko po sana magjoin kay ifern pero deciding p din po kase sa mga comento nababasa ko dto.. mas madami ung negative side kesa sa positive side..
ReplyDeleteikaw lang makaka sabi niyan. Kung mag jojoin ka dahil sa karamdaman mo, ask a doctor first.. kung mag jojoin ka dahil gusto mag negosyo, pag isipan mo at itatak mo sa utak mo na walang risk, walang reward.. bawal talangka :D
DeleteHi. Look at the brighter side. I am with IFern and wala pong pagsisisi and we made a recent car purchase necuase of the company. Walang company na perfect and even on your current and past companies na napasukan is may problema talaga but IFern is working it out and me personally is wala nang issues.
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2022 na ngayon san ka na author nitong review, anong masasabi mo ngayon?
ReplyDeleteI-fern is just for selling, if your good at selling then this is good for you. But it’s just vitamins with food supplements. If it was such an amazing product then why hide it in a pay wall (membership)
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ReplyDeleteSobra overpriced ng I-Fern lahat ng products nila generic lang naman tapos ni repacked. Mas okay pa bumili ng vitamin C na pwede sa acidic rin sa Mercury drug store kaysa sa Fern C. Same sa other products nila like Fern D, ang daming mas reputable na companies na nag sell rin ng Vitamin D sa Mercury Drug store. Reputable companies na, hindi pa overpriced unlike sa I-Fern. Sa I-Fern puro ni repackaged lang na generic vitamins.
ReplyDeleteDo your own research. Based on what info you have gathered and personal conviction, then you can choose TO or NOT TO patronize their products.
ReplyDeleteI think the doctor is telling from an expert point of view when he said that alkalinity does not affect our blood by taking vit C. You people are doing bad business, you push recruitment, dont you. Action speaks louder than words
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